Teamsters still alive an kicking [Archive]

liner

04-11-2010, 09:45 AM

Hi, yes Teamsters are still "ALIVE AN KICKING" yes the card signature is going very well guys , an some peoples might have mighty surprises. Haha!
Hope that this thread will not be shut down!!

So all of who want to express you self about-it , well GOGOGO it the time pro or con you're all welcome!!!

The first handful of cards were signed about 7 months ago!They are getting desperate now and have resorted to calling drivers at home and mailing their propaganda to drivers houses in order to try and get cards signed.

So yes they are still kicking alright....but I'd say more like kicking a dead horse!!:lmao[1]::lmao[1]:

Nothings_Shocking

04-11-2010, 11:09 AM

The first handful of cards were signed about 7 months ago!They are getting desperate now and have resorted to calling drivers at home and mailing their propaganda to drivers houses in order to try and get cards signed.

So yes they are still kicking alright....but I'd say more like kicking a dead horse!!:lmao[1]::lmao[1]:

Liner they have to do that, there not allowed to talk to or give out any of there material on a companyies private property. When i was in on of the factories i worked at that was unionized even when the company and the union were negotiating a new contract they wernt allowed to do or give us anything relating to union on company time or property ,so it doesnt mean there losing steam or interest.

Mule Bleue

04-11-2010, 12:13 PM

Exactly, no one can give specific info, but can keep peoples inform that the ball still rolling an that there will be some activities for it, to convice that it is the rite thing to do to sign cards.

Mule Bleue

04-11-2010, 12:15 PM

I wonder if Union are not the rite solution, what else can be done???
One thing that I'm sure is that the "statu quo" is not acceptable for the whole industry!
Any good suggestion???

Mercenary

04-11-2010, 02:14 PM

Therein lies the rub. I think most can agree that there is a problem with the way OTR works and how drivers get paid but no one solution will work for everyone.

What I think would happen is the unionization of Challenger would cause the Canadian trucking industry to take a long hard look at their practices and hopefully they would be compelled to make improvements. That IMO would be a perfect world scenario. Not likely to happen but one can hope....

Pipeman

04-11-2010, 04:56 PM

Nothing wrong with Unions.

The Ontario Trucking Association is a UNION made up of Ontario Carriers.

The Canadian Trucking Association is a Union made up of Canadian Carriers.

Many employees have an Employee Association to represent them in front of management. That's also a UNION.

With all the comments you read about Ontario Governemnt Regs. re: speed limit set at 105, LCV allowed, etc etc. Did it ever occur to you that it is the OTA and the CTA Unions that lobbied the Government for the changes?????? You see, Unions do work don't they.

mc94xr7

04-18-2010, 04:41 PM

who do you drive for, muel?

mc94xr7

04-18-2010, 04:43 PM

tell you what teamsters. you might wanna use some of that propaganda at our company because we working on ways to kick out the teamsters. the drivers are sick of this powerless union that steals our money and gives us nothing in return. we want our rights back- our freedom of choice.

Pipeman

04-18-2010, 04:57 PM

liner

04-18-2010, 06:52 PM

Liner they have to do that, there not allowed to talk to or give out any of there material on a companyies private property. .

Yes I agree...but a desperate union will go to any lengths to sign new members.My point was that if things were so bad drivers would be tripping over each other to sign cards.Obviously that is not happening so the teamsters needed to resort to pestering drivers(and their spouses) at home via junk mail and phone calls.

liner

04-18-2010, 06:57 PM

Nothing wrong with Unions.

With all the comments you read about Ontario Governemnt Regs. re: speed limit set at 105, LCV allowed, etc etc. Did it ever occur to you that it is the OTA and the CTA Unions that lobbied the Government for the changes?????? You see, Unions do work don't they.

I guess if you want to consider them unions it's just another reason to have no use for them.........look what they got us!!!:dont_know:

mc94xr7

04-18-2010, 07:41 PM

I guess if you want to consider them unions it's just another reason to have no use for them.........look what they got us!!!:dont_know:
I'll 2nd that notion while union members run and play denial

buzzy

04-19-2010, 11:17 AM

Mule Bleue

04-19-2010, 12:27 PM

liner

04-19-2010, 02:12 PM

Liner I would like to say thanks a lot; I've show some of your comments on this Forum an guest what 3 drivers decide to sign their cards after reading your excellent comments, so I have to say thanks a lot for your help.

Your welcome...anything I can do to help.So what does that give you now,a total of 4 including yourself.:lmao[1]:

Mule Bleue

04-19-2010, 04:39 PM

Your welcome...anything I can do to help.So what does that give you now,a total of 4 including yourself.:lmao[1]:
About that, you know that I can't tell you but when it will be deposit I'll sure let you know my friend:18_1_35[1]:

mc94xr7

04-21-2010, 01:09 PM

hey Mule Bleue (http://www.truckstopcanada.ca/forum/member.php?u=1469). cute teamsters truck. no real, i like it. so thats where my hard working union dues went? to a truck that hauls nothing? you guys spend as liberally as a liberal government. wow http://www.truckstopcanada.ca/forum/image.php?u=1469&dateline=1262206526 (http://www.truckstopcanada.ca/forum/member.php?u=1469):gassy[1]:
(http://www.truckstopcanada.ca/forum/member.php?u=1469)

Mule Bleue

05-16-2010, 09:02 AM

I have a question? Under the right to privacy act, how did the teamster's get everyones home address or phone #.?

If someone at CMF is handing out personal information, then they are looking for a good group lawsuit.

Hey Buzzy, did you guys have heard about internet; a lot of info is sitting on internet like canada 411, facebook, twitter, an all the other web site. So can you imagine someone who really know how to use internet, so you don't really need those "secret list" from cmf. As far that I'm concern , other then rumours (some one in a terminal that 's not happy for a promotion that he didn't get) yeah could be possible that a list is running somewhere, who knows ??????

Mule Bleue

05-16-2010, 09:34 AM

liner

05-16-2010, 10:04 AM

Some interesting links for you guys: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49958830@N04/show/ http://www.todaystrucking.com/news.cfm?intDocID=23924 http://www.youtube.com/teamsterschannel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=184NTV2CE_c

Hope that you folks will enjoy it
Have a great day

:lmao[1]: Isn't it funny how the teamsters can park their truck right in front of both the Challenger and Elgin yards, where you can't help but see it...and still none of the drivers bother to stop and sign up....they just cruise right on by.:lmao[1]:

ralph

05-16-2010, 12:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/teamsterschannel#p/u/1/GMSUtKpp3oU

You're joking right! Bob/Robert Bouvier has NO fuggin' idea whether Challenger is "still making lots of money" or not and quite frankly it's NONE of his fuggin' business!

I don't have a dog in this fight/horse in this race but if that's part of the logic behind the membership drive and he's going to represent me I vote NO! That was 5:30 out of my life I will never see again...Thanks Bob/Robert

liner

05-17-2010, 01:02 AM

Two months and only 100 people viewed Bob's propaganda BS video in English,200 in French.Hmmmmm...seems to be very little interest in what this guy has to say!

ratfink

05-17-2010, 09:02 AM

You know, for somebody who doesnt care, you sure are interested and following this closely.

I've done another post that gives a good idea about tactics utilized by some of the dispatch and supervirors, how they treat drivers and how they dont respect them.
I didnt see any of youre fast replies from you guys about that one....

Forums like this doesnt give the right picture of what's going on.

What? 4 or 5 that are constantly critisizing this, ok lets say a dozen, plus a couples who dont even work there, wow thats not too many of you guys huh?

You can ridiculize an organisation all you want, but you guys seems to forget is that behind all this, theres a bunch of people who are fed up of all the BS and at least standing up.

What's more important, what the guy from union has to say or the message the drivers are sending to the company?

Again, you are not ridiculizing the union, you are ridiculizing the drivers who are fed up and at least trying to do something about it.
Haaaaa yes, it's not the company, it's just a couples of bad apples on a power trip who piszed off drivers. yeah right.

The company or any other for that matter will have to realize that if we are representing the company because we are pulling trailers with huge billboards in public.

The team of dispatchers are representing the company in front of us drivers.

Mule Bleue

05-22-2010, 07:07 PM

Two months and only 100 people viewed Bob's propaganda BS video in English,200 in French.Hmmmmm...seems to be very little interest in what this guy has to say!
Keep laughing, when they will deposit an that you have to pay you monthly union fee, then will see who be laughing.
The more you write down things like that ,you do help out to convince drivers to sign, especialy for those who come from cambridge an do know you. So keep going an thanks a lot .

liner

05-22-2010, 10:27 PM

Keep laughing, when they will deposit an that you have to pay you monthly union fee, then will see who be laughing.
The more you write down things like that ,you do help out to convince drivers to sign, especialy for those who come from cambridge an do know you. So keep going an thanks a lot .

:laugh1: Well I guess I can keep laughing then since you can't seem to get very many people to sign up.What are you waiting for, turn in the list....oh thats right ,what list!! :laugh1:I have yet to talk to one driver that is for the teamsters.In fact everyone I talk to laughs at them also.You guys had your kick at the can and failed !!Sorry about your luck!:laugh1:

Union dues from me......:laugh1:

Mule Bleue

05-30-2010, 12:00 PM

So look like the Drivers an O/O of Wilson's Truck Line, so as the O/O of Young Transportation choose to go with Teamsters. Huummm not bad at all. This should have some peoples to think about-it, that mean that the "forteresse" in Ontario can be beaten if Drivers an O/O really want it!!! BRAVO BRAVO for those PEOPLES WHO DARE TO STAND-UP!!!!!!!! A BIG HAND

Mule Bleue

06-19-2010, 01:02 PM

Hey Folk new headline " Challenger workers are insulted" on www.teamsters-challenger.ca (http://www.teamsters-challenger.ca) related from the article Truck News june 2010 page 34. to be follow

ralph

06-19-2010, 08:53 PM

Hey Folk new headline " Challenger workers are insulted" on www.teamsters-challenger.ca (http://www.teamsters-challenger.ca) related from the article Truck News june 2010 page 34. to be follow

Maybe I'm a little "slow" BUT...if I was as "INSULTED" as the Teamsters profess some employees are I would have packed my sh1t and moved on long ago. Why do they continue to hang around to continually get kicked in the teeth by ownership? Challenger must have a GREAT dental plan! The Challenger drivers should go see Robert Transport or Kingsway Transport or Wilson's trucklines because according to the Teamsters their staff are being looked after!

One question for you Mule Bleue. If the teamsters are not successful in organizing will you remain @ Challenger or will you move on to another carrier? Is it apt to be an organized carrier or would that not be relevant>

Not trying to start a fight, just asking questions.

Mule Bleue

06-20-2010, 11:20 AM

Ok Ralph,
Well we all know that it will be a long way to organise as it is a big organisation an that we have to follow the rules, yes Teamters have to follow the rules also. What tell you that we will failed?

About the dental plan I don't know if you work at Cmf or not, but if you do ,you must have realize that since they change all the benifit plan the dental is not so great anymore an it cost more then in the past, me I have the family plan with less protection but more expensive how's that??

If you work at Cmf an that you're not insulted of what happen that's your problem , but I do think that an employer who refuse pay raise for the last 7 years , refuse to pay for trailers switchs, that we more an more an more, but do have million$$$$$$$$ to buy 600 lcv trailers, to buy 486 new trucks an invest millions in heavy haul equipment, then yes I am very very very INSULTED. I do think that what is the most important thing for MR Einweichter is the image, the glaring. Did he say a word about the drivers in that article; not a word. A trucking compagny is NOTHING without the DRIVERS , OK

How come a carrier like Robert who is with Teamsters cross the board is consider a succesfull carrier??(check in june Todays Trucking). By the way Fonds de Solidarité de la FTQ ( wich is a Union organisation ) have invest in Robert in the past to help them to go thru tough time, an have invest also in others carriers. Not bad for the BAd Guys!!!

Why is Union can't be consider as partner instead of the ennmies?? After all we all do the same job an we do have experience an good idea that can be win win combination. It work to a lot of place; why not at Challenger???

TaterSalad

06-20-2010, 12:52 PM

Until Dan has shareholders,he can do what he wants with HIS PRIVATE company!

Mule Bleue

06-20-2010, 02:37 PM

Until Dan has shareholders,he can do what he wants with HIS PRIVATE company!

Yeah he sure can, just like you say; but tell me what is a trucking compagny without DRIVERS???? Yeah he sure can, but does that show a lot of respect for HIS DRIVERS???? He can even sell the compagny or close it , it's his business. Take the money an go under the sun an don't even think about-it. I don't think that Drivers are asking for too much: respect, pay increase, decent working conditions ( not going backward as it now please) an may be once in a while a THANKS for make me multimillinaire!!!!

Pipeman

06-20-2010, 04:34 PM

Yeah he sure can, just like you say; but tell me what is a trucking compagny without DRIVERS???? Yeah he sure can, but does that show a lot of respect for HIS DRIVERS???? He can even sell the compagny or close it , it's his business. Take the money an go under the sun an don't even think about-it. I don't think that Drivers are asking for too much: respect, pay increase, decent working conditions ( not going backward as it now please) an may be once in a while a THANKS for make me multimillinaire!!!!I am a Teamster supporter but what you're trying to tell us is a bunch of crap. I could care less if the owner had made Kazilliions with his company, he doesn't have to "share" with anyone. If the teamster's can get a contract with Challenger, good for them. If not, emplyees are free to go eslewhere if they're not pleased. Think about it, if he loses all of his drivers, someone else will pick up the freight and drivers can go to work there.

liner

06-20-2010, 06:15 PM

I am a Teamster supporter but what you're trying to tell us is a bunch of crap. I could care less if the owner had made Kazilliions with his company, he doesn't have to "share" with anyone. If the teamster's can get a contract with Challenger, good for them. If not, emplyees are free to go eslewhere if they're not pleased. Think about it, if he loses all of his drivers, someone else will pick up the freight and drivers can go to work there.

Other than being a teamster supporter....I agree 100 percent and have been saying this since day one!!!

Mule Bleue

11-26-2010, 12:54 PM

CHECK IT OUT WE'RE COMING BACK!

ALIVE AN KICKING :hungry:

OilPatchTrucker

11-28-2010, 06:10 AM

Liner they have to do that, there not allowed to talk to or give out any of there material on a companyies private property. When i was in on of the factories i worked at that was unionized even when the company and the union were negotiating a new contract they wernt allowed to do or give us anything relating to union on company time or property ,so it doesnt mean there losing steam or interest.
Funny but its in our collective aggreement that I can take care of union bussiness and cant be harrased by managment for doing so.. If a driver has an issue he needs to talk to me about we do it in the yard on company time if need be, but dont waste time or delay any work in progress to do it???

OilPatchTrucker

11-28-2010, 06:18 AM

Mule Bleue

11-28-2010, 09:26 AM

OilPatchTrucker

11-30-2010, 12:21 AM

:laugh1: Well I guess I can keep laughing then since you can't seem to get very many people to sign up.What are you waiting for, turn in the list....oh thats right ,what list!! :laugh1:I have yet to talk to one driver that is for the teamsters.In fact everyone I talk to laughs at them also.You guys had your kick at the can and failed !!Sorry about your luck!:laugh1:

Union dues from me......:laugh1:
Well I have voiced a pro Teamsters stance here?? I have no probs being aunion member as a matter of fact I am the shop stewrad for our drivers.. we get along great with managment..

OilPatchTrucker

11-30-2010, 12:26 AM

Hey OilPatchTrucker, there'a an other one link that is interesting but it is in french. May be there's an english version but I can't find;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4znIvGj4OA

Enjoy it mon ami
In an ideal world my boss would be my freind..is the title
ill try to give a para phrased translation if I can

Its a union video telling people that the bosses say they are your freinds because they are the ones paying you.. its meant to be tounge in chhek.. its a pro union video.. showing the absurdity of boses really giving employees a fair shake..
Produced by the FTQ of Quebec Quebec workers federation

Pipeman

11-30-2010, 12:31 AM

Well I have voiced a pro Teamsters stance here?? I have no probs being aunion member as a matter of fact I am the shop stewrad for our drivers.. we get along great with managment..Pe Ben has been a Union carrier since 1967.

OilPatchTrucker

11-30-2010, 12:39 AM

Pe Ben has been a Union carrier since 1967.
Yup and if we patch over as Withers we will STILL BE UNION IN NISKU.. thats the way it goes.. andf the companies that are not happy union they have the right to vote the union out as when they voted it in.. it can be decertified also.. but Ill tell you.. on my last pay stub it shows I have paid 800.00 approx in union dues.. it also shows that to date I have grossed close to $90,000.00 in salary too.. My family have been union... My late Brother was a pipeliner and meber of the operating engineers and the Lobourer hall lcaol 99 for many years and a meber in good standing.. he has worked his trade up until his death as a proud union hand...

Mule Bleue

12-12-2010, 01:09 PM

Yup and if we patch over as Withers we will STILL BE UNION IN NISKU.. thats the way it goes.. andf the companies that are not happy union they have the right to vote the union out as when they voted it in.. it can be decertified also.. but Ill tell you.. on my last pay stub it shows I have paid 800.00 approx in union dues.. it also shows that to date I have grossed close to $90,000.00 in salary too.. My family have been union... My late Brother was a pipeliner and meber of the operating engineers and the Lobourer hall lcaol 99 for many years and a meber in good standing.. he has worked his trade up until his death as a proud union hand...

See for those septical personn about UNION it worth it to have UNION on board!!!

:bravo::bravo::grillin:

mplayer98

12-13-2010, 01:09 AM

I don't think too many people at Challenger really want a union I believe it's being done more to "TRY" & get managements heads out of the sand, it's pretty hard not to see most of them as "a" holes when that's all you can see cause their heads appear to be burried that deep in the sand!!! The really sad part is not even the threat of a union seems to be helping them get their heads out. They had one highly respected person going around asking questions to drivers at the first hint of a union & absolutely nothing was done to try a resolve any issues at all!!! I can just imagine the amount of money being spent by the company now trying to keep the union out just like before with the overtime issues for city drivers which also could have been totally avoided by a very simple cost of living increase, you really have to wonder about what kind of people advising Mr. D cause it sure doesn't make any sense at all unless the company is making that much money & needs the expense for a tax write off!!! Years ago Challenger used to be a great company to work for when the drivers were considered the back bone of the company, now they are treated like crap by so called driver managers, that don't seem to really like drivers in the first place. This seems to be much more apparent in Dorval as I don't hear the same stories coming from drivers about Cambridge dm's. I wonder if the company will ever wake up & once again be a fun place to work, sure would be great if it could be done without a union!!!

Mule Bleue

12-13-2010, 09:45 AM

I don't know if the vast majority what it for now, but I know one thing is that now peoples are not affraid to talk about-it, thing that you wouldn't even imagnie 18 month ago. What that mean is that it make it own road slowly but surely. With thing that have happen in Dorval , an that the peoples talk about, well it sure help the Union cause. Administrator by keeping their head in the sand like you say, that what will help the Union the most as Drivers are more an more fed up with the mean attitude of management. Will it take time; Yes. It will be a "Long an winding road".:asking:
Like it or not ; time is on Union side.:36_1_7[1]:

An yes few years ago challenger was a place where we the Drivers had a lot of fun working there, we had friends, doing a job that we like an making good money. Now for a reason that I can't explain something broke up on the way, nobody want to fix it, nobody is listning anymore an like you say ; they treat driver like crap an we are fed up with it.
One thing that I've see over the years is that this problem is not exclusily at challenger, it almost cross the board in the otr industry; the solution well Union cross the board in that industry that will level the working condition of all otr Drivers, so that after carrier will compete on the quality of their service, not by cutting the rates an then cut Driver pay to get the business.
:bravo:

JReid

12-14-2010, 05:06 PM

I wonder what this blue mule is gonna get from the union if they get in.He's working pretty hard at it.

OilPatchTrucker

12-14-2010, 10:56 PM

I wonder what this blue mule is gonna get from the union if they get in.He's working pretty hard at it.
I thik hes allready a union meber and is local to that deal with challenger and is just commenting on things

Mule Bleue

12-26-2010, 03:35 PM

I wonder what this blue mule is gonna get from the union if they get in.He's working pretty hard at it.

Yes I'm working hard to have Teamsters onboard as after 16 years of loyal an good service that's exactly the RIGHT thing to do to improve our quality of life an $$$$.
Just go check the new thread that I've post today, that may help more to understand why!!!:bravo::Trucker:

Mule Bleue

01-30-2011, 12:16 PM

YEAH still alive an kicking:

http://www.teamsters.ca/en/news/1528/challenger_campaign-the_teamsters_continue_the_battle

Have a nice day to ALL:Trucker:

OilPatchTrucker

01-30-2011, 09:57 PM

One thing that does surprise me is that in Dorval there is such a problem as Que has been a union prov for a long time.. if I am not mistaken it was the first and I think the only prov to pass anti scab laws years ago?? correct me if im wrong

Mule Bleue

01-30-2011, 10:09 PM

Mule Bleue

02-05-2011, 11:43 AM

You will see it in Montréal on the feb 14-15-16 how alive TEAMSTERS is with the audition for the certification request for CITY drivers of the Dorval terminal. It is open to the PUBLIC, you're all welcome.

:Trucker::bravo::bravo:

Mule Bleue

02-12-2011, 01:27 PM

Do you think that might be some journalism present monday??:asking:

Mule Bleue

02-19-2011, 11:59 AM

More then ever, Drivers will decide in a secret vote on tuesday 22th at the dorval terminal:bravo::Trucker:

Mule Bleue

03-06-2011, 09:15 AM

For all of You who think that the game is over, Tadamm we are still alive an kicking.:bravo:

Yes we keep going for the hiway Drivers, O/O an city Drivers of the others terminals .:bravo:

An don't worry we will be back for the dorval city Drivers, it's not over yet:bravo:
:Trucker:

Drifter

03-06-2011, 09:40 AM

Like Arnold said........

Mule Bleue

03-06-2011, 10:26 AM

Like Arnold said........

Ok drifter, as I don,t always understand the subtility of the english language can you be more explicit??:asking::36_1_7[1]:

ralph

03-06-2011, 10:48 AM

Like Arnold said........

Arnold said "I'll be back" in one of his movies.

The only "Arnold" movie I remember was Kindergarten Cop where he played an undercover FBI agent who was pretending to be a kindergerten teacher. That's where the line "It's not a tumour" came from.

ralph

03-06-2011, 10:53 AM

For all of You who think that the game is over, Tadamm we are still alive an kicking.:bravo:

I'm curious as to how/why the Montreal/Dorval city drivers were the test run for the unionization of Challenger Motor Freight. Were they the first to indicate they wanted to be unionized?

OilPatchTrucker

03-06-2011, 11:01 AM

Arnold said "I'll be back" in one of his movies.

The only "Arnold" movie I remember was Kindergarten Cop where he played an undercover FBI agent who was pretending to be a kindergerten teacher. That's where the line "It's not a tumour" came from.
Gen D MacAurther told them I'll return.. Arnorld said in Terminator ..I'll be back...