Challenger drivers gives teamsters the boot!!

[liner]

Good news travels fast!!

Well what have we got here. After all the BS from a certain bunch it appears Challengers Dorval drivers have sent the Teamsters packing once again.

Turns out that of the 16 city drivers only 6 voted for the Teamsters,10 said no.

So I guess the "TEAMSTERS ARE NOT IN THE BUILDING"

Adios Teamsters.

[buzzy]

Kinda figured that would happen. Watch the ranting start up again now.

[liner]

Kinda figured that would happen. Watch the ranting start up again now.


Ya think so!! Won't they just quietly disappear now. LOL

[ratfink]

Good news travels fast!!

Well what have we got here. After all the BS from a certain bunch it appears Challengers Dorval drivers have sent the Teamsters packing once again.

Turns out that of the 16 city drivers only 6 voted for the Teamsters,10 said no.

Adios Teamsters.


Huum got permission to talk now?

[liner]

Huum got permission to talk now?

What would you like to know??

[elmo]

and..... how long before the *****ing starts again in the lunchroom??????

[buzzy]

Huum got permission to talk now?

That was uncalled for ratfink!!

[ratfink]

what do you mean uncalled for?

[OilPatchTrucker]

From what I understand its not over yet so all you guys gloating and guffawing .. maybe wait a bit..and why all the anitunion , union bashers posting in the union forums?????lol:angle1:

[liner]

Hmmm....funny how this thread disappeared for 6 hrs and now it's back!

[SpiritRoad]

So....

If THREE guys voted the other way they would have been in ? What a decisive vote. What would they do if it was 8 and 8 ? :asking:

[ratfink]

Why did the thread dissapeared?

probably enough time to ask mr cmf permission to post. LOL

[bikerboy]

Why did the thread dissapeared?

probably enough time to ask mr cmf permission to post. LOL

I really don't know what happened to it for those six hours

[Pipeman]

From what I understand its not over yet so all you guys gloating and guffawing .. maybe wait a bit..and why all the anitunion , union bashers posting in the union forums?????lol:angle1:

They're here because they don't have any alternatives to better their pay. So if they're gonna stay at the same rate...they might as well bash anyone that can do better.

[Pipeman]

Hmmm....funny how this thread disappeared for 6 hrs and now it's back!Liner....are you giving that little dog the finger???? lol

[liner]

Liner....are you giving that little dog the finger???? lol


No not me...I think a teamster might be though. LOL

[Pipeman]

I'm so confused @!!!!

http://www.truckstopcanada.ca/forum/showthread.php?6104-Challenger-drivers-give-teamsters-the-boot!!

[liner]

I'm so confused @!!!!

http://www.truckstopcanada.ca/forum/showthread.php?6104-Challenger-drivers-give-teamsters-the-boot!!


Whats confusing you there old fella??? LOL

[buzzy]

old guys are like that. Sometimes if they stand up, they can catch it on the rebound.

And don't forget, he's 3 hours behind us...... it takes a while.

[buzzy]

They're here because they don't have any alternatives to better their pay. So if they're gonna stay at the same rate...they might as well bash anyone that can do better.

Don't know about the rest, but I'm a moderator, it's my job to read every post.

[ralph]

old guys are like that. Sometimes if they stand up, they can catch it on the rebound.

And don't forget, he's 3 hours behind us...... it takes a while.

only 2 hours to edmonton, maybe you are in nb?

[buzzy]

Ralph, you need new glasses.... I said 3.

[Pipeman]

Don't know about the rest, but I'm a moderator, it's my job to read every post.Read all you like but you don't have to comment on every one of them./. By the way, if you were in Newfieland, it would be 3 1/2 away. But beautiful Ontario is only 2.

[ralph]

By the way, if you were in Newfieland, it would be 3 1/2 away. But beautiful Ontario is only 2.

Thanks Pipeman. Just because I haven't worked much since Christmas doesn't mean I have forgotten time zones. I'm in Effingham. going to Dallas and I won't change another time zone, I did that yesterday.

[ralph]

Why hasn't the media/any media had anything to do with this. Truck News, Today's trucking have nothing on their web-sites. This was big sh!t when it started and now nothing. Heck, it doesn't even make the "Google News" when you do a search for "teamsters".

Guess it isn't news worthy.

[ratfink]

Read all you like but you don't have to comment on every one of them.
I agree with you on this one Pipeman.


Why hasn't the media/any media had anything to do with this. Truck News, Today's trucking have nothing on their web-sites. This was big sh!t when it started and now nothing. Heck, it doesn't even make the "Google News" when you do a search for "teamsters".

Guess it isn't news worthy.
Maybe mr cmf didnt give them permission to publish it.

[liner]

Funny how there is no mention of it on the Teamster website either.Must have slipped their mind.LOL

[ralph]

I agree with you on this one Pipeman.


Maybe mr cmf didnt give them permission to publish it.

It was news when the Teamsters applied, I would have tjpught the vote was news worthy also. It sure as hell would have been if the vote went the other way!

[1-800-bigtruck]

This was sent to me by a friend of mine , thought this was as good a spot as any to post it

I am a union worker. I am not the problem. Teachers, police officers, firefighters, paramedics, road workers etc. are NOT the enemy. If you are jealous of our benefits, FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN, not against ours. The rich who created this crisis are putting middle class families against each other. We live here, pay taxes, work hard & try to support our families too.

[junior]

This was sent to me by a friend of mine , thought this was as good a spot as any to post it

I am a union worker. I am not the problem. Teachers, police officers, firefighters, paramedics, road workers etc. are NOT the enemy. If you are jealous of our benefits, FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN, not against ours. The rich who created this crisis are putting middle class families against each other. We live here, pay taxes, work hard & try to support our families too.

I agree with everything except the work hard if you work hard in a union the other workers will chastise bellittle and harass the hell out of you until you come around to the union mentality!!

[Mercenary]

I agree with everything except the work hard if you work hard in a union the other workers will chastise bellittle and harass the hell out of you until you come around to the union mentality!!
Never had that issue at the union gigs I worked for. While it was certainly true that there were some slackers around, most guys took pride in their work and did a good job each and every day.

With all the BS in the trucking industry today I would be RUNNING to join a union and telling everyone around me to sign up too. You truckers sure get the short end of the stick.....

[OilPatchTrucker]

I agree with everything except the work hard if you work hard in a union the other workers will chastise bellittle and harass the hell out of you until you come around to the union mentality!!
Horse hocky pucks

[1-800-bigtruck]

I agree with everything except the work hard if you work hard in a union the other workers will chastise bellittle and harass the hell out of you until you come around to the union mentality!!

For the record , that's a rumor or a myth , Sure there are some that take advantage of the union or the system but a high majority of union workers do work hard and take pride in what they do for a living . There was a time when I had thought the same but that was before I had worked in a union shop .

[OilPatchTrucker]

No matter what work you do or where you work there will allways be guys that when I was in the military we called buddy f**krs who would slack and let others do thier work.. same thing in the every day workforce.. some are just lazy wankers.. union, non union, what ever.. a whanker is a whanker

[coolcountrycowboy]

No matter what work you do or where you work there will allways be guys that when I was in the military we called buddy f**krs who would slack and let others do thier work.. same thing in the every day workforce.. some are just lazy wankers.. union, non union, what ever.. a whanker is a whanker

Very well said. Even Buzzy, Liner and Junior will approve. The only difference is it's harder for unionized company to get rid of the slackers.

[coolcountrycowboy]

I agree with everything except the work hard if you work hard in a union the other workers will chastise bellittle and harass the hell out of you until you come around to the union mentality!!

You know what, You're right. Well partially. I'm working in a unionized co and I know some do that sometime. The difference is the meaning of hard work. Let's imagine you get a new job and you're paid to work from 7 to 4. You're doing your best, you get there at 6:30, leave at 4:30, with the best attitude ever and a terrific work ethic, you think you're a good employee.

Then, you're superior ask you to come in his office and say something like the one who had your job before could do all this on top of what you're doing. Now you're considered a slacker.
Then you find out the guy before you was working from 6 to 5, no breaks or very little and still working while having his little sandwich. What would you think of that then.

In those cases I agree, the union have to tell the guy to slow down so you don't look like a lazy guy when you know you're doing a great job.

[Mule Bleue]

Good news travels fast!!

Well what have we got here. After all the BS from a certain bunch it appears Challengers Dorval drivers have sent the Teamsters packing once again.

Turns out that of the 16 city drivers only 6 voted for the Teamsters,10 said no.

So I guess the "TEAMSTERS ARE NOT IN THE BUILDING"

Adios Teamsters.

Ok I hope that this time my reply won't be remove, hey who ever did it thanks.

Now tell me liner did dan call you on this one, you been advise of the result before they where posted. The only way is that one of the person presnt in the room call you; one thing sure it wasn't Teamsters so must be your close friend dan!!!:36_1_7[1]:

By the way if you folk imagine that because we lost a battle that everything is over , well you aint see nothing yet :nenernener:

:Trucker:

[ratfink]

No matter what work you do or where you work there will allways be guys that when I was in the military we called buddy f**krs who would slack and let others do thier work.. same thing in the every day workforce.. some are just lazy wankers.. union, non union, what ever.. a whanker is a whanker

I'm taking a chance, this post might be deleted
after all it's only MY opinion!

Thats right this BS about slakers is only one of the excuses given by our little league of vaampires protectors.

You know, for a while now we have come up with a bunch of things that are wrong with this industry.

I used examples from one company, because I know them but the crap going on there could easely be applied to others since they all act the same toward drivers.

I brought up examples like managment bunching up on a driver to intimidate them, for any reason, This crap happened way too many times.

refuse a load, and sit in the safety manager and 2 or 3 clowns will give you crap for a while to scare you.
This crap wont work with odler drivers but I have seen many young drivers get scared like that.

Theres a discrimination charges based on age that was filed by one of cmf's driver.
That is clearly not right, and you guys should see what the owner had to say about why these contracts exists.

Those contracts were posted and deleted with a lame excuse, couldve photoshoped it to remove the company's name off and show how realy truckers are treated in this industry.


All this doesnt matter.

We've seen threas locked, deleted hey even a word like vaampire is censored lol what a joke.
that's not too far from censorship huh?
what pizz me the most is all this garbage going on is put asside only to fight against the bad union or is it to protect the cambridge god of trucking and his OTA's friends ?????

It doesnt matter WHY all this garbage happened.

The worse part is that it's not the "defenders" fng business.


most of them dont even work there and if you look at the past posts from those "defenders" they are all saying the same thing, only difference is that they are carefull not to point fingers at the gods of trucking.

[liner]

Now tell me liner did dan call you on this one, you been advise of the result before they where posted. The only way is that one of the person presnt in the room call you; one thing sure it wasn't Teamsters so must be your close friend dan!!!:36_1_7[1]:




Sorry but I sure didn't hear it from "my close friend Dan".Just some friendly advice....know who your friends are!:idea:

[Mule Bleue]

Sorry but I sure didn't hear it from "my close friend Dan".Just some friendly advice....know who your friends are!:idea:

Ok just curious how you ear it?? by who? at that time there was not many personn!!!:asking:

[ratfink]

Doesnt matter who leaked the results.

But someone tell me,
I heard mr boss was in Dorval all week before the vote, running all over the yard shaking hands, tapping drivers on the back, meeting them one by one, telling them about if they chose to go with union he would have to drop the raise they are suppose to get soon etc.

Where is he now????

I guess he gave back the reign to those who were responsible for this mess in the first place huh?

My question would be ,

"how long before these people get back to their old habit of wasting drivers?"

It's only a matter of time.

MY opinion.

[coolcountrycowboy]

Ok just curious how you ear it?? by who? at that time there was not many personn!!!:asking:

MB, Come on, you know he's not gonna give up his friend. Like he said, know who your friends are.

And let me tell you another thing, with union people, be ready to get back-stab.

[ratfink]

And let me tell you another thing, with union people, be ready to get back-stab.

Dont have to be part of an union to be backstabbed, Ask me how I know , LOL

And you see, I noticed hat you had to edit your post, the reason? "because you have to be carefull"

This is an example of what I talk about, what is it? will we need a lawyer to review all our postings before we press the "enter key"?

This is the kind of fear installed by the little mafia to shut up everybody.

When this fear is installed in our heads, then the freedom of speach is gone.

[coolcountrycowboy]

Dont have to be part of an union to be backstabbed, Ask me how I know , LOL

I know. I've seen peoples at union meeting, being friendly to everyone, get informations and run back to the boss.


And you see, I noticed hat you had to edit your post, the reason? "because you have to be carefull"

Yup, I'm taking care of my back...



This is an example of what I talk about, what is it? will we need a lawyer to review all our postings before we press the "enter key"?

This is the kind of fear installed by the little mafia to shut up everybody.

When this fear is installed in our heads, then the freedom of speach is gone.

I can take care of myself pretty good.

It's just I put too much informations. I don't want it to be seen by non-member of this forum. But, if anyone really want to know, Pm me and I may give the information on a personal basis.

[ratfink]

I know. I've seen peoples at union meeting, being friendly to everyone, get informations and run back to the boss.

Hey dont have to be in a union for that, I've seen just last week.

Driver I know had an accident and was pizzed the boss didnt even check on him, they had time to send somebody to retreive the truck's computer and get the trailer at a repair shop but no time to see if the driver was ok.

wrote in somewhere on a social site and one of the driver who has his head so far up the boss rear end called the boss to tell him about the complaint this was suppose to be a so call friend.

Now dont tell me that the only place you saw this behavior was with union members...seriously???

I wasnt trying to bust your balls with this just that these days we might need a lawyer to screen what we want to write because we might ruffle some feathers.

Do vaampires have feathers???

[Bigwheel]

Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth here, I find it really funny that when there was all this banter against the companies and those who are against the unions, we all had to shut up and put up with it. Now that the table is some what turned all those who are pro union are up in arms because the other side took the the upper hand for a moment. It seems to me that if you are going to dish it out you better be ready to take it as well. I saw post after post of all sorts of pro union and anti company lies. Now the truth comes out "drivers voted against the union" and we want to keep it under wraps, hide it in a dark recess somewhere and try to pretend it did not happen. Well, the fact and the truth of the matter is simple, it happened! Face it! Accept it! Live with it!

Now I know I risk being banned and gettimg this removed but I will also make one other statement, which is directed at Ratfink as I know this gentleman. Freedom of speach does not give you the right to publicly insult, humiliate and ridicule people because of some personal vendeta and crusade for some imaginary, delusional and wrongly perceived injustice towards you or because someone has an opinion that differs from yours. You call them *******s but your conduct is nothing less than bullying and gestapo tactics. Try taking a good look in the mirror some day you may be shocked at what you see. You talk of respect yet know not what the word means.

[liner]

Very well said Bigwheel!! I couldn't agree more.:bravo:

[ratfink]

Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth here, I find it really funny that when there was all this banter against the companies and those who are against the unions, we all had to shut up and put up with it. Now that the table is some what turned all those who are pro union are up in arms because the other side took the the upper hand for a moment. It seems to me that if you are going to dish it out you better be ready to take it as well. I saw post after post of all sorts of pro union and anti company lies. Now the truth comes out "drivers voted against the union" and we want to keep it under wraps, hide it in a dark recess somewhere and try to pretend it did not happen. Well, the fact and the truth of the matter is simple, it happened! Face it! Accept it! Live with it!

Now I know I risk being banned and gettimg this removed but I will also make one other statement, which is directed at Ratfink as I know this gentleman. Freedom of speach does not give you the right to publicly insult, humiliate and ridicule people because of some personal vendeta and crusade for some imaginary, delusional and wrongly perceived injustice towards you or because someone has an opinion that differs from yours. You call them *******s but your conduct is nothing less than bullying and gestapo tactics. Try taking a good look in the mirror some day you may be shocked at what you see. You talk of respect yet know not what the word means.

Hummm registered yesterday,
first post at the same time,
Come on, do you realy think were that dumm?

Feel better now?

You are supposely from Québec, (wich I doubt), I didnt make anything up.

You say you know me? (wich I dont doubt), give me a call.
You know how to reach me.

And about banning you? nahhh dont worry about it, they wont touch you with a ten foot pole + we're not fighting huh?

Expressing our opinions, and thats what it's all about.

And Mr bigwheel, May I suggest a little reading from a national magazine in the US?

http://www.truckersnews.com/does-less-equal-more/

Theres Mr Spencer who says exactly what I've been saying for a long time.
Proof that Ratfink is not that far off mark with his comments huh?.
Ok ok Mr Specer is much nicer, he has to if he wants to be published but he hits the nail on the head whn he talks about the salary's erosion.

[Maxx]

You are supposely from Québec, (wich I doubt)

Bigwheel's IP Address is Montreal so that puts him in Québec when he posted the message.

Welcome Bigwheel but watch the personal attacks.

I would like to add, this dialogue on union versus non-union has become tedious. The supporters and detractors go over the same monotonous points trying to sway the other side. Its time to give it up and move on.

[coolcountrycowboy]

I kindly remove my own post. So please, don't run after the mod.

[buzzy]

CCC, why would you try to set "bait" an hour and a half after a warning was posted about the practise?

[ratfink]

Bigwheel's IP Address is Montreal so that puts him in Québec when he posted the message.

Yeah sure, you know that doesnt mean squat!
But I'm glad it made him feel better.


I would like to add, this dialogue on union versus non-union has become tedious. The supporters and detractors go over the same monotonous points trying to sway the other side. Its time to give it up and move on.

I didnt bring union up, I just bring up dirty tricks used by our *******s.
It does disturb a lot of people, cant talk about these thing in trucking.

[coolcountrycowboy]

CCC, why would you try to set "bait" an hour and a half after a warning was posted about the practise?

The warning is clear about personal attack. (which I'll never do, unless you really deserve it)

I just didn't clearly understood the rest of Maxx's post (damn french translation of mine...).

[mc94xr7]

i'm sorry. its gouvernment that creates class warfare and everything else that we all complain about.

[mc94xr7]

Ok

By the way if you folk imagine that because we lost a battle that everything is over , well you aint see nothing yet :nenernener:

:Trucker:
this is the 1st time i agree with you. you guys haven't seen nothing yet. the only reason SGT2000 got unionized was because of Robert transport. they came over to the main terminal and set our trailers on fire and shut us down. they wouldnt allow us to do our pick ups of paper at customers in qc untill SGT employees became unionized. you been officially warned by that teamster guy who keeps spraying his pro union propaganda graffiti all over this great websight. this proves the teamsters are nothing more than an extortion raquet designed to help the fat cats in the teamsters head offices while exploiting the hardworking workers who get forced into paying benefits.

[mc94xr7]

thats right. i said it! i know the truth. even ask Rick Davies from the teamsters. he'll tell you the same thing. unions only care about the dues. he's the head of our brampton, on local at sgt2000. i cant believe i got him to admit it during a time of no contract.